In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi, and Brandon Boatner about what it means to be basically human as minister and pastors of the gospel.
Here’s a discussion on from two pastors on the topic of “Pastoral Proverb”
Some highlights from today’s episode.
- Be willing to look stupid, but don’t be stupid.
- I am only human.I’m just flesh and blood (even though I got a Spirit), I can only do so much.
- We are not God, but sometimes pastor try to be omnipresent, omniscient, or omnipotent.
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People are not human doing, but people are human being.
- I am reminded once again, that I am first and far most not a “pastor” but a “child of God”
- My wife only gets one husband. My children only get one dad.
- The church will always be there, and it can wait.
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It’s ok not to be ok.
- In churches, we people more like acquaintance rather than friends. With friend you can cry.
- Speak the unspoken.
- We don’t express in unhealthy ways, or even suppress it or repress it but confess by lamenting.
- The unspoken rule is that leaders cannot make any mistakes.
- As long as God gives you airs in your lungs, don’t give up.
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Be humble and yet you can be confident.
Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation.
1. Life Lessons in Pastoral Ministry
– Be willing to make mistakes but learn more those mistakes.
– Because you are human, it’s ok to make mistake. Don’t be afraid. Fall forward.
– Be willing to step out and don’t reinvent the wheel all over.
– We are not action-based church be a being church.
– More coffee is not always the answer!
2. People are Not God
– Sometimes, we don’t try to be someone that we are not.
– Being available to everyone and anyone is contradictory to being human.
– We are better together. Our churches are better link to reach the community for Christ.
– How do we often introduce ourselves? By our occupation and what we do.
– I had to learn these lessons the hard way, I wish I learned it quicker through a book.
3. Proper Boundaries in Humanity
– Take a Sabbath! Take a day off from work.
– It’s ok not to be ok.
– “How are you?” it is a custom here in the States it’s an introduction.
– In counseling, I identify their pain, give it a name, and gently touch it.
– How many do you have friend you can cry together at 2:00 am? That’s a real friend.
– Ministry is a performance driven atmosphere.
– Art of lamenting which has been lost within the churches.
– Feed the elephant that is in the room.
4. I Will Make Mistakes, Even Big Mistakes.
– We are not perfect, though sometimes we act like we are perfect.
– The truth is this, there is no rules in the rules of ministry.
– The best structure, system or strategy doesn’t really matter because there are no rules.
– Be ok with the element surprise even though we don’t see the future.
– “A righteous man falls seven times but rises again” (Prov 24:16).
– Make mistakes and learn from your mistakes.
– As longs as God give you a pulse, he has a purpose for you today.
5. God Gives me Grace
– John speaks of God giving us grace upon grace.
– “There’s nothing like the school of suffering” – Charles Spurgeon
– A new day will come (this is the truth). Until Jesus returns, the sun still rises.
– Jesus meets us where we at. He invites us to his table.
– “It is doubtful God can bless a man richly until He has hurt him deeply” – J.I. Packer
– Where sin abounds, grace abounds even more! Though sin is many, His mercy is more.
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